Full Count Chaos - Nathan Andrews, Orioles, Pete Alonso & leftover Pizza

331 BaseballBiz On Deck with Baltimore Orioles Full Count Chaos

Mark Corbett: [00:00:00] Oh, welcome to BaseballBiz On Deck. I am Mark Corbett. And with me of course, is Mr. Mat Germain. And this week we have a very special guest. Guest and that's Mr. Nathan Andrews of Full Count Chaos. How ya doing, Nathan? 

Nathan Andrews: Good. Appreciate, uh, having me on. It's been a lot of Chaos being a Baltimore fan these past few months, so yeah.

Definitely Chaos. 

Mark Corbett: Mat and I had been, looking at the Orioles so much over the last year, and I think earlier if you were, if it was one year ago today, I think that would've been thinking Orioles. They're gonna be in the playoffs, they're gonna be, , maybe they'll be the a LE piece. I don't know.

But a young team. But NN none of that really kinda came to fruition, at least the way I was seeing it. Hey Matt, what, what are you seeing today? What's going on, brother? 

Mat Germain: Um, I think you're, you know, you're onto something and you're putting out the Orioles, uh, as part of the [00:01:00] teams to watch for. I, you know, anytime you have a, a group of young players that, that didn't really have their best year, and then you inject as much talent as what they have this off season, it, it speaks from the front office to the players and the fans as well.

Yeah, but to the players especially that they believe in this group. And they're ready to make a charge now. So I don't know what your, uh, your thoughts on the entire off season so far. 'cause I, it's not done. Uh, Nathan is, but, uh, you have to be impressed with the commitment that they've made here. 

Nathan Andrews: Oh, a hundred percent.

And, and I think, um, you know, it was frustrating for the fans because Mike Elia said a couple years ago, liftoff and then his definition of liftoff seemed a little strange. Fans were going, wait, lift, lift, what off? , So that was concerning and I think that's why, , after 2025 season, , Rubenstein, the owner in the mO'st polite way pO'ssible came out and was like.[00:02:00] 

I'm willing to spend all my money. That's all I wanna say in a polite way. He was kind of, you know, read between the lines, this is on Mike because me, I'm willing to spend the money. And then he just kind of left it at that. And I think Mike was like sitting there going, well, I guess it means it's up to me now.

'cause, uh, you know, Rubenstein's giving me his checkbook and, and telling me do what I need to do with it. So I think, , that had a lot to do with this off season. Rubenstein got a little aggressive in his interviews as well about,, wanting to spend that money. So, 

Mark Corbett: and, and you all did, I mean, the, one of the first big free agents to go Mr.

Pete Alonso. 

Nathan Andrews: Pete Alonso. I was so excited about that. 'cause when I heard he made, uh, uh, basically stated after the season, like, no, I'm, I'm all ears like. You know who's, who's out there? I'm ready to hear what you got. I was stoked, but at the same time, I'm like, the Orioles are never in the mix with those big players, so I [00:03:00] was shocked.

That was a pleasant surprise. That was awesome. 

Mat Germain: But , you had 

The previous, like really, like you go from the transition from Chris Davis and the bus that he was as a 

big, , first base signing 

Nathan Andrews: Yeah. 

Mat Germain: To another first base signing. That's one of their biggest commitments. So there is a little bit of that comparison that's gonna take place over time and say, okay, where is this one going to hit?

I don't think there's any doubt in our minds that Pete Alonso is gonna hit a lot of home runs. 

Nathan Andrews: Sure. The 

Mat Germain: question, I guess will be, can he maintain the half decent average and on base and everything else to go with it? But he was your second edition of the off season? Actually, the, the Taylor Ward came up before that.

Yeah. That was he just as important as Pete and a lot of 

Nathan Andrews: people don't give him much credit. No. He is got some punch in his bat. Like he, he really does and, and I think. In a weird way, I, I, I don't know if it overshadows, but it, he was involved in the Orioles getting rid of Grayson. So it's like there was more talk about, oh my God, the Orioles [00:04:00] just,, got rid of Grayson Rodriguez and why did the angels get gray?

So it's almO'st like, in a way it kind of distracted from, you know, talking about like, the Orioles got a great player, Taylor Ward, like, I'm excited, he's got great numbers. He is, he's just a, uh, you know, veteran player. So. That was, I gotta say, that was a shock to me as well. It's been a weird off season, but um, you know, we start talking about it and I start thinking like, yeah, that's right.

Weird stuff has happened, hasn't it? Um, but yeah, I'm very excited to watch Taylor Ward. I think he's gonna be a huge part to the Orioles and the Orioles are looking for outfielders right now, which is, um, ironic 'cause. A couple years ago, you know, we thought we had our star outfield, but 

Mat Germain: things change Now. I do have to say though, like, and I think we spoke about this the last time you were on, um, like the, the whole departure of Anthony Santander and how much he meant to the team as a whole in terms of his presence, his veteran, his leadership.

That's what they had [00:05:00] been missing last year. A lot of people feel, so Taylor Ward seems like he's that kind of guy that'll come in and play a little bit of that role. Yeah. Yeah. And then you subtract Grayson Rodriguez, and then you add Shane Baz, which is, I don't want to say he's a clone of Rodriguez.

Nathan Andrews: Right. 

Mat Germain: But he's got a lot of the similar style of issues, injuries. We can't, right. No. Oh, but they're not shoulder issues. Right. Which is, I think we scared off the Orioles with Grayson. 

Nathan Andrews: Yeah. Right. No, Shane Baz I was excited about that as well. Of course, the Orioles fans, we have PTSD with, uh, Orioles pitchers and injuries, but no, Shane Baz is another great pickup.

I'm excited about that. Um, I, I just, you know, talking about Grayson Rodriguez, I just think it was time. I, the Orioles are trying to win now, and, and there was a pattern with Grayson. And his injuries. Uh, that's why I kind of laugh when we're talking Shane Baz and injuries, but I, I, I think he, you know, he's gonna be a great addition to the Orioles as well, and, and Mike Elias.

I'm giving him a lot of props. I was hard on the guy for a [00:06:00] long time, and. Lately I've been tipping my hat to him. He's, he's doing what he needs to do right now, and I'm excited. This is, this is fun watching this. Finally, 

Mark Corbett: you, you've been an O's fan for some time though. I mean, your family, your, your dad. What?

Your dad was a pitcher in the O's organization, wasn't he? 

Nathan Andrews: Yeah, it was really crazy. He, um. So long ago he played, there is a, uh, um, this is so cr random, uh, where we, uh, live in Baltimore. There's a, uh, um, I don't know what the right term is now. It's called Spring Grove HO'spital. It's for people who, uh, I don't even know the correct terms these days, who are, uh, uh, need a lot medication, let's say that.

And they should be indoors mO'st of the time. We'll go with that. But what, the reason I'm bringing that up is the Orioles were having tryouts. That there's a baseball field in the back of that hO'spital. Wow. And the Orioles came out and they said, all right, just walk on tryouts. And it was about over 200, uh, players, [00:07:00] local players, you know, pitchers and catchers.

Two made it. They asked two, and my dad was one of 'em. Wow. And he was 18 years old. And, um, they called him the next day and then they, he flew down to Virginia and, uh, or, um, oh, flew. Or, or West Virginia. But yeah. And then by 19 he's, he was, uh, single A with the Orioles and then he just worked his way up. He kind of bounced back and forth, majors and minors, but it was just.

Hearing how, uh, um, back in those days, in the seventies when you were in low a double A, it was like eight guys sleeping in a shed, you know, sharing mozzarella sticks to get by those days. It was really funny to hear how the minor leagues were back in the day. They didn't really take care of you like they do now.

Uh, but anyway, sorry to make a long story short. Please. Yes, he was involved. I, uh. Obviously grew up pitching. I'm like, I'm, I'm gonna play for the Orioles. Look at me [00:08:00] go. Um, but uh, yeah, that was awesome. My dad, he had season tickets and it was so funny. I remember years, uh, like 30 years ago or 20 years ago, he lost, I, I guess back in those days, they didn't have it like in a, uh, computer system and he lost his season tickets and he was so upset about that.

But yeah, that was, um, fun hearing all the stories about him growing up and playing for the Orioles. 

Mark Corbett: Well, I mean that had to be exciting and I mean, it obviously kinda carves a place in, in a child's life when their father is that involved with the game. Mm-hmm. That it kind of becomes part of them as well, we uncle 

Nathan Andrews: played for the Orioles too. He, Jim Lehew, look him up. He was a sidearm pitcher. 

Mark Corbett: He 

Nathan Andrews: pitched for the Orioles as well. 

Mark Corbett: I love sidearm pitchers. 

Nathan Andrews: Yeah, 

Mark Corbett: I know. He, I, a while back I was doing research. I thought there was actually a Nathan Andrews who was born like 1913, who was a ball player too.

I know. It's, it's amazing. Yeah. You, you're just, you resplendent out there. I know. It's funny. Looking 

Nathan Andrews: at my dad, somebody had stats. [00:09:00] Someone took the time, you know, that's how far back you can go in stats of his minor league stats. It was the weirdest thing. Looking at that on some website page. I'm like, how in the hell did they find this?

But yeah, that was funny. 

Mark Corbett: It's out there. 

Nathan Andrews: It's out there. 

Mark Corbett: Wow. Well, you know, another connection with us these days with the Rays is the new ownership. Ken Babby, his dad was general counsel for the O's for a while when he was a young lad. He said, running around up there in the offices, up at the Camden Yards.

What's the building? The can thing in the Eutaw building. What's the

yeah. Anyway, he, he talks about that. I, I, there's everything I love about the Orioles, I mean the park, my gosh, Camden Yards, the Orioles Park. That to me, that is just so cool when I look and I see, and we had, uh, Janet Marie Smith, you know, one of the, uh, architect designers.

Of that, her and I guess Lucchino, uh, kind of pulled all that together. But my gosh, man, you guys have such a wonderful park. Now, Matt and [00:10:00] I, we have something, you know, to, to look forward to. Hopefully we get Janet Marie or somebody like her to, to build something new for us in, in Tampa here in the next, uh, decade.

Nathan Andrews: Yeah. What, so what are, what is the plan going on down? What's happening there? 

Mat Germain: Don't ask, don't tell. That's the, that's the plan. The plan is don't ask, don't tell. We have nothing. Okay. Well, what I told Mark in the recent post, I said, everything is still on the table. We've been talking about this for two decades now, and it's, it's every option is still open.

They can go to Orlando, St. Pete, Tampa. There's no preference site, there's no agreement anywhere. There's just, you know, really a lot of hearsay and a lot of rumors and a lot of handshakes being given for not much return so far. So I, I think with Stu's energy kind of moved aside now. A fresh look at everything is gonna, is gonna help them out a lot.

Getting better opportunities than they were getting initially. 

Nathan Andrews: Hmm. 

Mat Germain: Okay. Yeah. But do you, well 

Nathan Andrews: where, where did they play [00:11:00] this past season? Where was that again? 

Mat Germain: They, they wanted to leave their mark on, uh, Steinbrenner field, I think. And, uh, okay. That's, and so they, uh, that's a nice way I heard that they've left a few curses in there somewhere that'll only be vacated once they move to the Tampa side.

Nathan Andrews: What are the season ticket prices now? I mean, are they, what do those look like? Are they. Helping fans out with discounts. And 

Mat Germain: I, I took a peek just that, that, because I, I, I've actually asked Mark this exact thing, how are they gonna change the marketing? How are they gonna work towards filling the trop?

Are they gonna open up the top levels or are they gonna close 'em off, like Stu did? So we're trying to get a feel for that, but there's nothing definite yet. All I know is that there's more flexibility in terms of the family packages. So far. 

Nathan Andrews: Yeah. 

Mat Germain: And it seems like the, the allowed fans to pick up single game tickets earlier than usual.

So other than that, there's no real indication yet in terms [00:12:00] of, uh, there's no price hikes, which is a, a good thing. Right. 

Nathan Andrews: They're looking out for the fans. Okay. Yeah. And speaking of season tickets, I, by the way, I, just to clear that up, when I was telling that story about my dad losses he had, when you play for Orioles, you get a, like a, back in those days, you get a free pass, like.

Unlimited free tickets basically. I don't know if it's the rest of your life, but that's what he lost. And I just remember he was just so upset because again, back in those days, you couldn't log on the internet and log into your profile. It's like when you lose it, you lose it. Um, but that's what I meant about him losing stuff.

And it just made me laugh thinking back in the day, like, yeah, that's right. You can't just open up an app and. Yeah. You know, let me just pull up my old profile. So I always remember him being bummed out and when I got, when I started getting older, really interested in the Orioles, and he told me that story.

I don't think I talked to him for like a week. I was so upset. Oh gosh. Neither. But any, did you guys go to any Rays games this past season? 

Mark Corbett: I did. I did indeed. I went to like the last week. Okay. [00:13:00] And, uh, you know, it, it had been pretty hot and I actually had stayed fairly breezy around there.

It was interesting, the, the vibe, the nice thing about it, it was a small enough, uh, venue that pretty well filled up. You know, with, with the fans that were there. Mm-hmm. Uh, and I think it was Puerto Rican night and oh my gosh, I loved it. All the music, all the people and their, their garb, all the presenting the Puerto Rico there.

I thought that was exciting. Yeah. Oh, it was fantastic. That's great. Uh, just real quick side note while I'm thinking about it, is I went to see, uh, Tampa Bay Buccaneers play this weekend, my first NFL game ever. Really? Yeah. And I, by the way, I. As I'm going up there on a couple of corners coming up close to the game, there's all these folks out there with Venezuelan flags and man, they were just so happy they were out there.

Yeah, you just, the pride of seeing some of these folks just, just amazing. Yeah. And then yeah, and, and then getting in there. And Matt and I have talked about this before, [00:14:00] Nathan. It's just like, what can you do to capture the imagination of a , a young fan, and keep them coming back. Yeah.

And you know, we've, we've had other folks on here. We talked about that with Jane vy and, and others, but. The, the stuff they did pre-game, where they involved, uh, fans with the players a little bit more, yeah. Even some of the, uh, pyrotechnics before the game and through the game, they did a lot to, to make it an entertainment value above and beyond what was just happening on the field.

Nathan Andrews: Oh, that, that. That's amazing. That's that's great. That was the Panthers in Bucks game, right? Yeah. Is that the one you went to? Yeah. Yeah. 

Mark Corbett: Yeah. And, and if the Saints, if the Saints had won, yeah. Uh, they would continue on, but that did not happen. Wasn't that 

Nathan Andrews: a weird scenario how that all works out? It is just so weird.

It's the same thing as being a Ravens fan. We had the, we needed the Browns to beat the Steelers, so we all just were like, well, there goes the season. Then the Browns wound up beating the Steelers. It's just such a weird, weird, weird season in the NFL, but Wow. That's great. So you enjoyed it, I [00:15:00] assume? 

Mark Corbett: Oh yeah.

It was, uh, my wife's company had box seats up there, the suite. Oh, so while it's raining, you know, I'm sitting there underneath cover with window over. Oh, that's right. It was pouring. Oh, it was, it, it's, yeah. They didn't have a game delay. It was. It was quite enjoyable and, uh, I'll, I'll probably, I never really had any interest in going to an NFL game, but after that one, yeah, maybe

Nathan Andrews: So you were dry 

as a bone the whole game?

Mark Corbett: Yeah. 

Mat Germain: Yep. You know what they get right? That the, that MLB gets wrong? 

Mark Corbett: What's that? 

Mat Germain: They have the Nickelodeon. Uh, broadcast that they do for kids. And I don't know if you've ever taken a chance to, to look at I have, yeah. But it's great. It is great. It is. Yeah. It, it captures 'em, it's at their speed, it's at their level.

It's more, uh, you know, it's less. And I, and I know they get a lot of the older players and, and you know, guys like to sit around and they go one at a time and they kinda sit there usually in a regular broadcast. Right. And they're all like, whoa. I know what I'm talking about and you know what you're talking about.

Let's praise each other a little bit and let's keep talking about that. That's [00:16:00] not 

Nathan Andrews: gonna bring in any young fans. Right, right. That's a great, that's an excellent point because it, it's true that, that's always been a topic with baseball of like their average fan age just keeps going up and they're like, well, we're trying to get the young ones involved.

It's like, well, you're not doing squat to get 'em involved. Like, you know, kids under, you know, six years old dollar hotdog. It's like, that's not gonna do it. Like. You guys gotta figure something out. 

Mat Germain: Yeah. Hopefully they do. I, speaking of young guys, you guys sent the, the rays a bunch of young guys. Yes, we did.

For, for the second time, which, yeah, and I, I think I told Mark, I said, you know, when we look back on the Chris Archer trade, everybody thinks, you know, the Ray had a lopsided trade. I told him that the returns from this trade are even better. Yeah. Am I wrong? No. Well. 

Nathan Andrews: You know, prospect. I, I'm, it's always so funny, Mike Elias was always getting hammered for holding his prospects.

Like it was, you know, these little [00:17:00] bag of gold. Like, we're always like, you know, take a chance with your prospects for crying out loud. Go out and get some players. 'cause there's some other trades where, um, look real quick. The example I always say the Manny Machado trade. . To the Dodgers and all the prospects that we got, and I, I even remember there's Dodger fans going, oh my God, I can't believe we gave up.

You know, Dean Kramer's the only guy that has worked out in that whole trade of prospects, and he's like our number five pitcher on the Orioles. So, you know, seeing the prospects that, uh, we gave for Baz concerning, concerning. But, , I'm not going to get too upset about it because this is all what we've been yelling at Mike Elias to kind of.

Do get outta your comfort zone, kind of get rid of the, you know, trade those prospects. That's what they're there for, to get some players into win now. Yeah. And it's funny when he does that, fans are going, well wait a minute. It's like, no, no, no, no, no, no. This is what you all are screaming about Now that Elias says, okay, I'll get out my comfort zone.

Don't start [00:18:00] complaining. But yeah, the, the, uh, prospects that the Rays got, yeah. 

Mat Germain: , So with that in mind though, what, what my focus goes to, okay, first of all, what it says, the Orioles believe Shane Baz can become that frontline starter. And I'm completely with them on that front in terms of stuff, right? And the second half he started to show that and.

If he's in the zone, he will be a frontline starter. I firmly believe that he's just as tough to hit as anybody else out there. I think there's modifications in his pitch mix he needs to make and things like that. Mm-hmm. I believe the Orioles can help him get there. He's familiar with Zach Effin, who they also brought back.

Yeah, I think they do great together. He's familiar with Andrew Kittredge, which you guys brought back as well. Right. You, you're building a nest of guys that are f they're able to talk things through right. And then figure things out. Yeah. I mean, if you wanna talk sinkers, you talk to Andrew. I mean, he's the, the main guy you wanna go to

Nathan Andrews: Filthy.

Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

Mat Germain: But Shane, Baz to me, has the chance to be, if he's healthy. [00:19:00] A frontline guy, let's say number two, maybe a really strong number three, right? Like somewhere in there on a, on a really solid staff of Orioles. So he's also though, in his arbitration years. So do you feel like at this point, if you're Mike Elliot, are you actually going through.

The extension talk and, and kind of delving into that just to show fans like, listen, we didn't give up these prospects for nothing. We're gonna keep this guy around for a while. 

Nathan Andrews: Oh, I assume so. Yeah, for sure. I completely agree with that and I think that was the plan from the get go.

And I, I agree with you a hundred percent. Um, Shane b definitely, you know, there's signs there where you're just. This guy, he's the real deal. I mean, he hits a hundred on the black and yeah, there was, you know, injury concerns. But if he gets going this year, oh my God, he's gonna be just extremely pleasant to watch pitch for the Orioles.

But yeah, I do, I think, you know, we're seeing a change in Elias and I don't know what it was before [00:20:00] of I don't know what it was before, why Elias didn't seem as aggressive. Maybe he had some different routine.

He was trying to feel I, I don't know what that hole was, but this is like a whole new Mike Elias and how aggressive he is. And the example you're talking about Shane Baz. Yes, absolutely. I guarantee you. That's what , they're trying to do. They want to keep 'em around. And , I think, , with those prospects, the reason why I gave that example the Manny Machado trade, it was because anytime you're talking prospects, you just never know.

You don't know. And I think that's what was so frustrating with Mike Elias. He would always, it felt like he was always holding onto these prospects. 'cause it's like. I didn't know if he was convinced, like they're all gonna work out. These are our, you know, this is our future. This is how, why we're no, it's like it doesn't always work out.

So I just laugh with that. Manny Machado trade when Dodger fans are like, we gave up who? And look, Dean Kramer pitcher for the Orioles. He's the last of the trade that worked out and is still playing. So you just never know. So I was proud to see Mike Elias get out of his [00:21:00] comfort zone. To pick up a guy like Shane.

BI was, 

yeah, I have to, you know, the last time you 

Mat Germain: guys, uh, I'd say you guys, the Orioles hit, uh, 30,000 or more in attendance per game on average was when Manny Machado was there. , And you guys, , lost the, uh. ALCS and Chris Davis was your first baseman, which is, we're going back to that one. And Nelson Cruz was, also on the team, which the Ray took a big shot on at some point.

 , you guys, , also sent over Cedric Mullins to the Rays. , Not willingly, but I know he is beloved up there. People love him. , I think Leo Leotis, uh, Tavares was brought in to kind of replace his role a little bit with, with the team.

Nathan Andrews: I have a different opinion on 

Cedric Mullins, so I don't know.

You might be talking, lemme know what it's, that's what I'm asking him for. Yeah, brother. Sure, sure. Yeah. Well, look, I Cedric Mullins, man. He was such an up and down player when he had good weeks. You'd think he was the best Orioles player you've ever seen. But boy did he have some [00:22:00] cold, cold at bats. I mean, he just, he would go quiet and.

I, I, I'm telling you, I always thought he was always throwing with his wrong arm in the outfield. Like, you know, he didn't realize he was actually left-handed and he's been thrown with his right arm this whole time. That always bothered me. And another thing I gotta say, I, I don't want to go into Cedric Mullins, right?

Great guy, great player, appreciate everything you did for the Orioles, but you know, all these highlights and, great catches, he makes it. It's because he is like five feet tall. He's gotta run an extra mile and a half to get to these baseballs. You know, and so it always looked like he made these amazing plays I don't know.

I, I feel bad that I'm sitting here going down a rant. I used to get hate mail every time on an episode. I would start going off on Cedric. I just wasn't a huge fan of, of Cedric. He had one hot season and then after that it just was like, I don't know. It was, it was, he's just a frustrating player. I, I, it's hard to.[00:23:00] 

I get what you're saying. I don't put the words in 20 seconds of what I'm trying to explain here, but you know, you're just talking to the wrong guy. If you want me to be like, oh my God, I miss. Mullins. But 

Mat Germain: here's the thing, I don't think the Rays are gonna use Cedric Mullins the same way the Orioles did. I think Cedric Mullins is gonna be.

Play a role on the Rays that's gonna be a lot more like Manuel Margot. They're gonna shift them to right field and they're gonna ask him to cover less field, which in that case, like you mentioned, is gonna make him a lot more effective. They just want somebody out there that can actually catch the ball and get to the ball.

Nathan Andrews: Right. 

And it was frustrating because you know how many, how many runners went from first to third and they would look Mullins right in the eyes. He had the ball like, go ahead, I dare you. And they would make it to third as the ball bounced 8, 9, 10 times. You know, to the third base. It was just so frustrating.

But again, I don't wanna sit here and bash him, but I mean, he, you know, apparently he, he didn't do well on the Mets, right? He had a, he had a tough go at it. And I don't know, I just think part of being a fan, you, you [00:24:00] just kind fall in love with a player regardless of, of how they play. And, and, and you're looking through, you know, the orange and black goggles and you're not really paying attention to what's really going on.

So. I agree. Anyway.

Mat Germain: I 

gotta ask you about another guy, though. Yeah. Uh, Heston Kjerstad, what's going on with him? His bat speed is so low compared to where it used to be. What, what is happening with his profile and why isn't he, uh, lighting it up now that he's, , MLB? Yeah. Yeah. What, what was that? What was the last part?

Now that he's mlb ready? 

Nathan Andrews: Yeah. No, I mean, I think it's just. What, what do you say? He is? Just, he's just struggling. He's, uh, he's trying to figure it out. I mean, he has, there are signs sometimes where you're like, I mean, he did get hurt. He get hit in the head. So he did, he had an injury that he's been dealing with a couple injuries and, , God, I can't think off the top of my head what we, he's been battling too with, um.

Uh, it'll come back to me. Now I'm starting to lose it. Alright. Now [00:25:00] I've been so focused on the Ravens lately in the past like month, I'm like starting to like lose all this, , important information I have to remember pertaining to these players. , But I don't know what's gonna happen with Heston. He, he just continues to, uh, struggle.

And I think sometimes these young players, they get the yips. And they're not, they're not in that eight, they're not in that part of their career where they can work, they can get out of it. Mm-hmm. And, uh, I think maybe that's what he is struggling with. I just think that's part of the career. You get stuck in those yips, you can't get out of it.

You're trying harder and harder and hard. You know, it's just a, a so pertaining to Heston Kjerstad, I, I have no idea. I don't know what's gonna happen with them, and I know that that's just a boring answer, but I, I don't know, because he, it was so exciting, uh, when he was coming up through the Minors, just like, God damn, this is, this guy's gonna, be our hero.

And 

no,

Mat Germain: Taylor Ward's controlled for two years, right? Who, uh, Taylor, uh, Taylor Ward. Is he there for two or [00:26:00] one year?

It's one. One, 

okay. I think we have 'em for one year, if I'm not mistaken. Yeah. Right. So that's 

essentially buying, Heston a year to figure it out and then they can make another decision at the end of the year and say, you know what, if Heston's earning it, then they can give him another shot afterwards, or, yeah.

Or keep, try to keep Taylor around. But yeah, the having options, I mean the, the Orioles, that's the thing when I look at them now, uh, with all the moves that they've made, I, I feel like you guys have set up, you know, some time for the people that are in the Minors to prove themselves and they're really.

, Get at it in order to earn a shot in the show. If that, if that's what they want, um, go in the season. So, uh, it's great. Like Ryan Mountcastle now is not asked to play a prominent role. He is basically a bench role and he gets to fill in when needed. And so what happens then is the manager's able to put him in Yeah.

You know, at the optimum. And that's the other point I was gonna say, you guys stole one of our managers, so we stole one of yours. There you [00:27:00] go. What is that swap thing going on? You got Craig? We got Brandon. 

Nathan Andrews: Yeah. Well, well it's funny speaking about Mountcastle, that's an interesting, uh, situation coming up in this season that's gonna happen.

'cause you know, Peter Alonso, a Coby Mayo, we got, um, Ryan Mountcastle. You know, we're not gonna say a, a player like Samuel Basallo, we're not gonna. Keep him on the bet. Yeah. So it's just gonna be interesting to see how, uh, they handle, you know, having 22 first basemans on their, uh, on their, on their roster. I don't know that that's gonna be interesting.

'cause Kobe Mayo again, he's another guy where it's just like, man, like, you know, I get young guy just tough season. He ended the 2025 season looking sharp in the past few weeks with the bat. But I don't know. That's gonna be fun too to see how the Orioles handle that. So, but yeah, Ryan Mountcastle, that's a name I don't think we're gonna see in an Orioles jersey much longer.

I agree. 

Mark Corbett: Well, I was wondering about, uh, Brandon Hyde mentioning him. Were O's fans happy to see him go? Were they blaming him [00:28:00] for last season or do they think maybe it was more front office stuff? Or Say that, say that again. Mark Brandon Hyde with Oh yeah. The, with his departure. Were mO'st O's fans happy to see that or they feel like.

The responsibility of what was happening this past season fell on him solely. How did that go? 

Nathan Andrews: I think the majority of fans, I'm gonna say levelheaded fans, they understand how sports works. I mean Yeah. You know what I mean? It, it's, it's when a team starts doing really bad and you see patterns and.

Who's the first to go? You know, you gotta, the manager's gonna be the one to go. I think it had to happen when he first came in, he was just supposed to steer the ship while they figured everything out. And I, and I was on board when they gave him more opportunity that, that next season or two, um, to say, Hey, you know, we appreciate everything you did.

, We will give you another season or two. But there's writing on the wall. It was time to go. It wasn't, it wasn't like we were popping champagne and fireworks were going off or anything like that. Right. I think we just all kind of looked around and said, yeah, it's time. I [00:29:00] mean.

You know that that's what happens when, , you have a team that's starting to crap the bed. Typically the manager is, uh, first to go. I mean, they were trying everything with new batting coaches and all sorts of things. I mean, it was things were getting really, really bad with, with offense and, you know, the, uh, the defensive stats and, and the pitching.

I mean, it just, what do you do? What do you do? I mean, it's kind of the route you have to go, you know? 

Mark Corbett: Well, I mean, let's face it, the, the manager is big part of the vibe that runs through the entire club and Yep. That's gonna be part of it. Yeah. I do wanna reflect back on something we were talking about earlier, and that's trades.

Matt. I was looking online the other day and somebody was going on and on this same old diatribe. Oh my gosh. They're trading this guy. We're trading that guy. Oh look, we traded Longoria years ago. We traded Archer. I said I had to interject at that point. Archer. Okay. Yeah, I'm sorry. You wanna talk about getting something good?

I mean, we have favorites. We hate to see go, [00:30:00] but we, we got rid of Archer and we got, oh, see, Austin Meadows and there's a pitcher, let's see, what's that guy's name? I think he's out to la. He, oh yeah. You know, he's doing pretty well too. And then later on, Shane Baz was part of that. Yeah. That 

Mat Germain: Delmon Young Trade Tree is crazy.

Like, because that's where it all started, right? It started with Delmon Young and, and when you go down that entire trade tree, like it's gonna last forever because now we've got those five guys from Shane BO'ss. 

Nathan Andrews: I mean, you're talking about, you know, uh, Delmon Young doesn't have to buy a drink in Baltimore the rest of his life after that hit in the, uh, 2014 playoffs.

There you go. Yeah. Yeah. Delmon young. God damn. I, I, I, I swear I still think I watch at least once a week on YouTube, that 2014 basis clearing double from Delmon Young against the Tiger. I don't know. It's just, it's all the Orioles have a 2014 highlight clip that you can tell you're talking to an Orioles fan when we're Yeah, talking 2014 highlights.

But 

Mat Germain: last time I saw Delmon Young was playing in the ABL in the, [00:31:00] uh, in Australia and he was playing for, uh, yeah, I can't remember which team. Brisbane or something like that, so, 

Nathan Andrews: yeah. Yeah. Yeah. 

Mat Germain: It's funny, every now and then speaking about Archer, what, what is he doing now? Oh, Jesus. I don't know. I, I hope he's doing something good because that guy had a rough trip over to Pittsburgh.

Yeah, yeah. And uh, yeah. Yeah. I know he blames himself a little bit. He came back to the race for a bit, that he tried his best and you, he could tell that he could actually, you know. Maybe hit 88, 87, but he just wasn't getting there and, and, um, it was a rough return. I, I could see him getting into some coaching things and then becoming a pitching coach at some point.

Yeah. 

Nathan Andrews: Like he. 

Mat Germain: He put up some really awesome stats for the rays for a long time. I think that he did. Oh, 

Nathan Andrews: I hated watching him come to Baltimore. Oh gee. I was looking at it. Uh, what, seeing if I could quickly see, uh, what he's been, oh, 2022 Minnesota was his last time. He Oh, okay. [00:32:00] 

Mat Germain: Yeah. Yeah. The Rays liked to send a lot of pitching over to Minnesota.

For some reason they sent Todd Bradley there. They sent, uh, Joe Ryan. Uh, true Ryan. They have a certain relationship with certain teams and, uh, if they're young and they're, and they're willing and able, then for some reason the Rays, give up on them and send 'em to many. Uh, if they're old and broken, they send them elsewhere.

Nathan Andrews: How do you guys, by the way, speaking of, uh, raise Van, you guys obviously in the Orioles division, how do you guys feel this season coming in, uh, competing with the Red Sox and the Yankees and the Blue Jays? 

Mat Germain: The way I see it right now is. The, the Blue Jays are gonna find it tougher to repeat than they think because people are gonna be gunning for them in a little bit more.

Mm-hmm. They're gonna be banking on a lot of guys repeating what they did the first time. And sometimes that magic can stay, sometimes it's a little rougher. 

Nathan Andrews: Yeah. 

Mat Germain: Springer showed a lot of cracks and he's the heart and soul of that team to this point. Vladi iss, you know, [00:33:00] becoming a, a superstar right now.

Like he's, he's always been a star. Yeah. But now he's sort of the, the drum. Right. He's the ani of that team and that's great. Yeah. Uh, I think, you know, pitching wise, they add a lot of depth. I think they're solid. For, for them. I think it's just a matter of can they handle the pressure to re repeat? They definitely have the talent.

If they bring in Tucker, they're gonna be, 

Nathan Andrews: oh God, yeah. That'll be a nightmare. I tell you that that ninth inning, that last game of World Series, uh, was the craziest. Yeah, it's 30 minutes of baseball I think I've ever watched. Oh my God. What, what a uh, way to end the World Series. Good lord. Um, that was something, but it was, it was a beautiful, beautiful, as an Orioles fan, seeing, uh, uh, Jeff Hoffman, right?

Hoffman, yeah. For Blue Jays. I'm saying the name, right? They're closing. Yeah. Yeah. De um, he, [00:34:00] uh, you know, was supposed to come on the Orioles didn't because of. Not passing the physical. Not sure if you guys knew about that. So they moved on from him, and every time he'd come in Baltimore, uh, and he would close out a game, he'd blow a kiss to the Orioles dugout.

I don't know if you guys knew that. No. Yes. He'd always blow a kiss. Oh, man. And be like, see you later. And, um, you know, it, it, it caused a big ruckus. And then he came into Baltimore and we're like, well, he wouldn't do it again. Right. Because all the. Did it again. So when I'm sitting there watching the blue Jay, you know, he comes out in the ninth inning to, to win the, uh, world Series.

Oh, beautiful. To see that ball just take off over left field wall. And I don't know if you guys were rooting for the Blue Jays. I, of course was not, but um. That, that was a beautiful site. I just had to get that out there. That was beautiful. 

Mat Germain: Yeah. Miggy Rojas. Did you send him a [00:35:00] gift or 

Nathan Andrews: did, yeah, I know, right?

I think I did say a thank you, uh, on social media somewhere. Uh, yeah. But that, that was beautiful. I, I don't know. I just, um, I, I can never. Root for a team in the division that my team plays in. I've never been able to do that. 

Mat Germain: Right. I can see that. 

Nathan Andrews: Yeah, 

Mat Germain: I, I'm about the same way. I used to write about the Blue Jays way back in the day and cover them completely and, and then when I lost my taste for them is when they.

They, they basically put the, the stick in the spokes of Alex Anthopoulos when he had,, 4 million fans going to the stadium. 

Nathan Andrews: Oh. And then they 

Mat Germain: kind of turned the page, I kind of just split at that point and said, you know what? Like, this is not the franchise for me. I'm going elsewhere. Yeah, 

Nathan Andrews: yeah. No, there you 

Mat Germain: go.

Nathan Andrews: Yeah, there you go. But 

Mat Germain: , The thing with the, the division though is we're not done. Right. You got the Red Sox, which made a lot of big changes. Yeah, they did. The Yankees are, are seemingly trying. They're trying. 

Nathan Andrews: They'll figure it out. They [00:36:00] always do. Yeah. They'll make Aaron Judge is on the team.

You know, 

Mark Corbett: I just keep wondering what Cashman, you know, what, what does he see that team looking like? And you know, there's a lot of talk about, we, we mentioned Kyle Tucker, but there's the other major free agents I keep thinking of the fight back and forth. I'm hearing between Mets and Yankees for some of these free agents.

And I don't know what Cashman's gonna do. I don't know if, if he, what he feels like he really needs to spend to make that team better than they've been. I mean, I look at her, I see, uh, somebody like Giancarlo Stanton, and I'm thinking, is he still playing or is this an old timers game that's happening today?

Yeah, I know 

Nathan Andrews: it's gotta be frustrating being an owner and you're always in the top three. Payroll, you know what I mean? It's like you're doing your job, you're spending money. I, you know, and then I, I, you know, I guess you get, you start firing your, your scouts and GMs. But I don't know, it's just gotta be frustrating for them.

And I don't feel sorry for 'em. Trust me. You know, I'm not sitting here being [00:37:00] like, oh, boo hoo Yankees. I just mean like, you know, the Orioles fans were not used to being in, you know, top three, top five, top 10. So when you are constantly and you're not winning. It's just gotta be a weird situation to be in.

Mat Germain: They need their Joe Torre. And what I mean by that is that there's a sense of entitlement with the Yankees right now. And that comes from, oh God, yeah. Some of the characters that they brought in, like Gerritt, Cole, yada, all the, they, they have a sense of we're supposed to win. You're, you're not supposed to get in our way.

Mm-hmm. And, and Joe Torre was the equalizer that kept everybody grounded and had that work ethic, you know, going through. And so unless you have that kind of thing, I think Joe Ardi, I know you got a lot of flack there. But he was that same kind of mantra a little bit where you had to earn it to get it. I, I agree with that.

Nathan Andrews: Yeah. 

Mat Germain: Whereas Aaron Boone is more of a player's coach, and I think that goes against them in a lot of ways. 

Nathan Andrews: Yeah, I agree with that. I think if you're gonna manage the, the, uh, the Yankees, I don't think you, you be a [00:38:00] player's, you gotta be that Yeah, that guy, like a Joe Torre for sure. To keep everything, just even keel.

I a hundred percent agree with that. Joe Torre. God bless that man. Whew. What? A manager 

Mark Corbett: who was a manning leader who came, uh, after him? Or with the Yankees? 

Nathan Andrews: I think it was Joe. No, it was Joe, wasn't it? Yeah, 

Mark Corbett: no, I meant, okay. Oh yeah, sorry. Oh, you're 

Nathan Andrews: talking about plane? 

Mark Corbett: No, I was actually, I was thinking managing, I felt like, I thought Mattingly was underneath Tory when he was managing at the Yankees.

Mat Germain: I'm not pO'ssibly, I don't recall that. I can't, I'm not, I'm not gonna say gO'spel, I dunno. No, 

Mark Corbett: no. 

Mat Germain: I don't 

Nathan Andrews: think matting. Again, I'm, you 

Mat Germain: know, 

Mark Corbett: well, I, I'm more likely be wrong than I am. Right. So we'll go with that average right there. But no, I, it is interesting 'cause we were talking before the show. Uh. I'm deviating here, but, uh, Mattingly, it's been interesting to watch him as bench coach, you know, with the Blue Jays and now moving to the Phillies where his, his son's, the gm.

Yeah. [00:39:00] And uh, prior to the show, Matt and I were talking, he said, do you know who, who really liked playing or working with him? And I said, who's that? He said, Bob Bichette. And so Matt was saying, will Bo Bichette she wind up with the Marlins? I mean, no, not the, the Marlins. The Phillies, maybe the Philly, yeah.

Nathan Andrews: Interesting. Take.

Mat Germain: Yeah, I think there's a, there's a chance, right? There's bo, there's bonds that, and we talked about it because it happened with the, um, the pitchers that left, uh, Atlanta recently. Apparently when they let the pitching coach go, it rubbed a lot of people the, the, the wrong way. And they ended up going, uh, or sorry, it was with the Mets.

The Met the Mets pitching coach went to Atlanta. And so Edwin Diaz decided to go to Las Angeles because of that. Now some people say it was Devin Williams presence as well, but there was more also of that relationship with the Braves, uh, pitching coach, uh, after he left. And I think sometimes that goes understated.

Like there's a work environment for [00:40:00] these guys and there's a repetition and a program and a lot of things they get used to that we don't even hear about, you know, out in the open boba shit. Hmm. Yeah, I think I still see 'em as a second basement. So in, in that sense, you know, it makes sense for the, the Phillies as well because, uh, I've been trying to get 'em to third base with the Blue Jays forever.

Uh, I still think, you know, the plays coming in, he has a little bit of struggles with anyway, but that bat is, would be really Yeah. Strong in that lineup. And he little play Yeah. Boba shit. Yeah. He, 

yeah. What I'd give to have him. Yeah. Use quite a plug. What, 

what, other than all the moves, like what have we missed, have we, what have we talked about that gets you excited about the Orioles this year that makes you think, you know, this is gonna be a special year?

Nathan Andrews: I don't think Mike, I, I, I don't think the Orioles are done right now. I, I think it's just quiet, you know, quiet before the storm. I think this is when, you know, the, the owners or, or gyms and, and the free agent agents, they all, they're playing chicken right now. I mean, [00:41:00] we go through this every season, right?

Every, it just kind of calms out and everyone kind of waits for the other one, and then we see, you know, I, I just don't think Elias is, is done. And normally when you would hear. You know, the Orioles are in the mix. We always used to swear that Elias would just call, pick up the phone and go, uh, I'm in the mix.

Can can you put my name on? I'm in the mix. Alright, thanks. Yep. That's E-L-I-A-S. Appreciate it. You know, but now when you hear Elias is in the mix of, you know, some of these pitchers free agents, you know, Suarez and, and, uh, vow as you actually get excited 'cause you're like, all right. He's in the mix, but I believe at this time, so I'm already excited.

I know you asked what else, but you know, with Shane Baz and Pete Alonso and, and Kyle, Bradish coming back for a full season and I think Gunnar Henderson, I think is gonna, uh, vibe off of Pete Alonso coming in that locker. I mean, that's the thing the Oriole's missed out on a lot over the past couple seasons.

They never, I mean, yeah, you could Santander okay, but they just [00:42:00] needed those veteran. Players like when things were, were going, were, were not working out and they were having a bad month. Like who was gonna be that, those couple guys to really, you know, get these guys moving. And I think, you know, you put Pete Alonso in the middle of this order.

I think a lot of these bats and, and, and ward. And it's just, you know, when you're gonna see guys like, uh, uh, Jackson Holliday and Gunnar Henderson and Cower, and they're gonna feed off of that energy and, and work with these veteran players. That excites me. And on top of that, the moves that haven't been made yet.

'cause I truly believe in my gut that Elias. Rubenstein and, and Ripken. Like they're not done. They're not done. They're going for it. 'cause when you see Mike Elias start giving up prospects, you know it's going down. You know, things are getting weird with the Orioles this season. Uh, 'cause that's just something that Elias doesn't do.

Um, so. I'm pumped. I'm excited. I can't wait. Although I said this last year, I said it the year before. I'm gonna say it again. This year's different [00:43:00] though. Uh, no, but when you bring a guy like Pete Alonso on the Orioles and, and all these other teams, and it was interesting when he was, I don't know, I, I'd love to know what was talked about.

'cause in, in, uh, interviews Pete Alonso said after it, he, he called his wife right away and he goes. Oh my God. He's like, I, I, this is it. This, this is it. Baltimore is where I belong. He's like, and , his agent I remember called Elias and was like, or, or who he speak to. He said, what went on that, like, you really convinced Pete.

So he seems extremely excited to play in Baltimore and, um. Yeah, I just, I, I, so it's just, it, it's, I feel like a giddy kid. You know? We're not used to the Orioles being in the mix of bringing on a big bat, like Alonso, you know what I mean? It, it's right. It's, , goose bumpy. 

Mat Germain: When, when I look at your roster and I think, okay, like, like you're saying, let's say he's not done, let's say they want to add one more big piece to really set the bar higher, right?

The, the Dodgers always rounded [00:44:00] out their rosters with guys like Miggie Rojas. With, with, you know, the, the utility types, the guys off the bench that add a little bit of depth. Uh, and so I don't know if there's a veteran that you have your eye on or anything like that. And I know they can't really bring in a guy like Brendan Donovan from the cards because they wouldn't have the playing time to give him consistently.

Yeah. So it has to be a guy below that level, but that can also move around and give them that utility, that heightened utility, I guess is the best way to put it. Yeah, because Je Ja Jackson probably isn't gonna be that guy that kind of does it for you. Right, right. No, I mean, 

Nathan Andrews: he, he can be an exciting player at times, but no, I, I, I don't, I don't, I don't, yeah, I don't think so.

I don't know, honestly. I mean, with the lineup that they had before Ward and before Alonso, we. We had a strong lineup. There was just, something wasn't clicking. I don't know if, the batting coaches. What? I don't know, maybe years down the road we'll hear someone, you know, somebody will write a book about the Orioles of 2025 and what happened.

It's [00:45:00] just say, it's so much talent and so much power in that lineup and what's going on with Adley Rutschman. Just so weird. So before these guys even came aboard, it should, it, it should excite you. So. When I say I'm hoping they add pieces, I'm, I'm actually talking about arms. I don't know if you need to add another big bat in the lineup with the Orioles.

I mean, if they do, I'm not complaining about it. Um, lately I've just been having my eyes on, on, uh, uh, pitching. But, um, you know, I, I don't know. I 

Mat Germain: I look at it right now. So you got Trevor Rogers, Bradish, Baz, uh, Dean Kremer and Eflin. So you've got a strong five, right? Yeah. They're kind of committed to those five. So unless you're upgrading from one of those, like you're trading Kremer to get a, a Tarik Skubal or something like that.

Mm-hmm. Like, you know, that that would be going above and beyond what I think people expect. Like you're talking about a blockbuster like that, that would set the world on fire when it comes. Sure. Baseball. [00:46:00] But, uh, yeah. To expect it. I, I don't know. Like, do they have enough left to go and get that kind of move going, uh, with the prospects they've dealt like it, it, they may have to take away from the lineup at that point.

Nathan Andrews: Yeah. That, that's what's gonna be interesting. There's, they're already in a situation now where they're like, you know, what are we, what are we gonna do here? We're kind of mm-hmm. Things are getting clogged up. I don't know. With Bautista being out. Helsley is gonna be the closer. I, I just, you know, I think we're looking toward when, I mean arms, like, uh, this going in.

Look, Trevor Rogers, he had this season. He, God, I don't know, he's gonna have to, uh, pay up. I don't know if he sold his soul or what, but that was, this past season he had was insane. I don't think he's gonna do that again. I, if he gets even just close to it, I'd be happy. Um, but. I'm, you know, when I'm talking arms, I'm, I, I guess I'm, you know, thinking bullpen.

'cause I, I don't know how Ryan Helsley iss gonna be in, in the closer [00:47:00] roll. And it was, it was so upsetting when Felix Bautista and I don't know if we're ever gonna see him pitch for the Orioles again. Yeah. Um, so I, I, I thought this season they were actually gonna go out and get like a. Big, heavy closing arm.

But um, I guess that's what I'm kind of interested in, if they're gonna do anything pertaining to the bullpen. 'cause if they start with the starting rotation they have right now. I'm okay with it, Kyle, Bradish, are you kidding me? Yeah. If, if, if he, when he came back at the end of the season after, , Tommy John's surgery, he picked up right where he left off.

It was amazing. 

Mat Germain: They can kinda wait till the trade deadline to make the big moves you're talking about, because then you get to see who's effective, who's healthy, 

Nathan Andrews: you 

Mat Germain: know? Of course. And then you have a, a deeper system to, to. Trade from. Mm-hmm. So that might be the way to go, really. And I think you're right.

I don't think they're done for like the whole year. I just think that they may, they may be settling into the, the end of the off season and kind of saying, okay, well, we'll see what else we can get later on. Yeah, I do. Yeah. I don't think there's, 

Nathan Andrews: yeah, I, I don't, yeah, [00:48:00] exactly. I agree with that. Yeah. Um. I just mean, he's still excited.

'cause you know, they're not dying, whether it's gonna be a, a little piece here or a piece. It's still just exciting to see them bring these guys on. Yeah, just still to this day, giddy about the, uh, the Pete Alonso again, not only because of his bat, but just bringing in the, the veteran. Vibe in the clubhouse, and that's what I've about.

Lemme tell you, I I'm still 

Mark Corbett: very, very jealous man. Very jealous. You know, we talked about 

Mat Germain: it. Yeah. 

Mark Corbett: Oh gosh. I mean, because we've talked about it by the time, and again, Pete is from here in Tampa as well as Kyle Tucker, they both went to Plant High School. I know I keep reiterating it, but I was hoping to have one of those guys here.

Before this, uh, season began. Yeah. And I don't think that's gonna ha obviously, uh, Pete isn't going to be there, but, we'll, we'll see what, uh, helps develops with that. But I'm so glad to see him with you all. I saw a lot of the, uh, talk when it was announced that he was gonna be with the Orioles and you could see it in his, his face.

It isn't just a man [00:49:00] signing a contract to a team. He is excited about being in Baltimore. Yeah. I wish that for any player who's looking at making a change. Sure. Yeah. So I'm happy for him and I think you guys are gonna be really pleased with, with the season with him as well. Yeah. It, it's gonna 

Nathan Andrews: be a fun season.

I'm, um, I'm really happy to see that, that Mike Elias is finally, uh, writing those checks that. Uh, Rubenstein keeps shoving in his pocket saying, please use these, will you? So, you 

Mat Germain: know, 

Nathan Andrews: let's 

Mat Germain: hope, I'm hoping for you actually right now that, that he uses that money for extensions. Extend, Gunnar, extend, you know, a couple of the core guys that you want to build around and make sure that they're there long term.

So that you don't end up like the Blue Jays where you lose one of them Yeah. To, to the open market because you didn't sign them early. Well, 

Nathan Andrews: they're, yeah, they're gonna need to be careful there. It, it's gonna get interesting with that coming up for sure. So, 

Mat Germain: yeah, 

Nathan Andrews: a hundred percent. And, and I think if, if there's an owner, again, he keeps saying this every year and you just never know if it's the just talking, trying to get Orle fans pumped up.

[00:50:00] But he's basically, you know, please take my money. Let's win what we need to do. So. It's fun. This is, this is real fun. It's a different kind of vibe, , being a fan coming into this season. So it's fun. 

Mark Corbett: Well, I'm happy for you, brother. Uh, Nathan Andrews has put the Full Count Chaos, man, I, I love your show.

Nathan Andrews: Oh, thank you. 

Mark Corbett: You're enthusiastic fan and a man who knows the game and, and loves his team. And thank you. You as welcome. There's, there's nothing flat about your show, brother, so Full Count Chaos folks. Check it out. Thank you. Is there anything else you'd like to make sure you share with us today? 

Nathan Andrews: Uh, well, no, I, uh, just want to, I, I know John Harbaugh listens to your show, so I just wanna say, John, I, uh, hope everything works out for you in the future.

I don't know if you knew the Ravens, uh, dropped them. 

Mat Germain: Yeah. Oh yeah. Yeah. Heard that today. Yeah. So yeah, change changes happen quickly at the end of the season. Hey. Yeah, they do. 18 years would be the head coach, 

Nathan Andrews: man. Yeah. [00:51:00] Wow. Anyway. No, but thank you man. I, I, you know, love talking. I could sit on here till midnight with you guys talking, but um, yeah man, it is gonna be a fun season.

The Orioles fans again are definitely gonna need it after that, uh, bad game the other night against Pittsburgh. So. Looking for a fun season. 

Mark Corbett: Alright, brother, Matt, anything else you want to No, I'm gonna say I hope 

Mat Germain: I see, , 30,000 fans average in, uh, Camden again. I think that's, that's so much fun to see.

I've been there, I've loved it. I went there for the last weekend that de uh, Derek Jeter played. , So. I was enjoying it and I wasn't a fan of either team and I was just talking to everyone. Everybody was having fun. It 

Nathan Andrews: was great. I appreciate you saying that. Yeah. Yeah. I think, uh, real quick that just a real quick piggy back off that, I think that's also why I think they got extra aggressive because boy was at depressing, uh, end of July and August, seeing 7,000 fans in the stadium.

Yeah. And that'll bring you down to reality of. You [00:52:00] might want to fix this, so 

Mat Germain: Yeah, you're completely right. Yeah, man. Yeah. So best of luck this season and, and we'll talk again for sure. 

Nathan Andrews: Absolutely. Oh absolutely. For sure. Always have fun. I appreciate it guys. Thank you. 

Mark Corbett: Thank you Nathan. And again, it's Nathan Andrews with Full Count Chaos

Check it out. And glad to have him here and we look forward to talking with you again, my friend, real soon. Yeah, brother. Alrighty. 

Nathan Andrews: That's a wrap.